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[Latvian Soldier]

Hello everyone! I'm building a computer for my friend. I just can't decide which is better!
XFX or EVGA :NVIDIA nForce 790i Ultra SLI ATX Intel Motherboard... This motherboard will be put together with [BFG-Tech] GeForce GTX 285 OC+ and Intel Core 2 Quad 3.0GHz... so what do you think, XFX or EVGA motherboard?
Thank You!

Edited by Latvian Soldier, 04 January 2010 - 11:00 PM.

[Novahawk]

EVGA

Their support is one of the best. They replace your stuff even if you OC it, and even if the damage was due to the OC (unless it caught on fire).

XFX support...

I've personally had bad experiences replacing a motherboard with them; it took them like 3 months to do it. It also doesn't help that they sent me a board that died in a week as a replacement.

[SoulWind]

I take it these are old components that are being reused? (Since no one would build a SLI system with 285's these days)

I would agree with EVGA, I prefer them by far.

[Scroll_Lock88]

I take it these are old components that are being reused? (Since no one would build a SLI system with 285's these days)

I would agree with EVGA, I prefer them by far.

You assume too much soulwind. I have long since stopped assuming people will do correct choices when it comes to computers. I just got done with a 2 hour conversation with a friend pushing him not to buy a LGA775 system in favor of a i5 build, and that nVidia is not the choice for videocards right now. Let us hope it isn't the same situation here.......

[Stubs]

You assume too much soulwind. I have long since stopped assuming people will do correct choices when it comes to computers.

+1

[Scroll_Lock88]

I can only assume since he hasn't responded to any of the comments in this thread is either one of two things has happened.

1. Totally forgot he made the post and/or read the post and realized 'I'm building a new computer with last generation's socket for the same price as the new generation ones!'

2. Realizing his mistake hasn't attempted to respond in fear of being pointed and laughed at. Which everyone gets the standard treatment of 'lol look at that toolbag' at some point in their forum posting in this community.



I'm more inclined to go with 2 myself :P

[Bumblebee]

EVGA all the way. Had a 680i in which a pci slot fried on it, they replaced it with a new one and fast too. Great support and knowledge from evga!

[Latvian Soldier]

Scroll_Lock88, what intel processor would you recommend? price(300$-400$)

[Stubs]

inb4 intel sucks

[Scroll_Lock88]

Scroll_Lock88, what intel processor would you recommend? price(300$-400$)

Not just the processor you should be looking at, what is the overall price willing to spend, and what do you have currently selected. From the talk of LGA775 and a Geforce videocard one can assume we need to do a from scratch price out at this point.

[Latvian Soldier]

well, the overall price should be no more then 2700$... I haven’t bought anything yet, but I was thinking about: main things!
1:EVGA nForce 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard
2:Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
3:BFG Tech BFGEGTX2851024OCPE GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
4:CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
5:XFX Black Edition XPS-850W-BES 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
6:COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKN3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case
If you have something better on your mind, I would really appreciate it!

[Stubs]

$2700 on 1 gpu and a c2q... you fail

unless, of course, you meant $1700, in which case an ATI 5870 would be the best choice in GPU.

This cost me $1500 (before shipping)
linky

[Latvian Soldier]

I said 2700$ for all parts together! Intel Processors & Nvidia Video Cards are so much better then AMDs and ATI Radeons, those products will even work much longer. I have seen this scientific project when AMD Processor was put on high temperature, it actually started to produce flames, so imagine what can happen to your house when nobody is at home!

Edited by Latvian Soldier, 07 January 2010 - 09:04 PM.

[Novahawk]

Uhhh...


If you mean the video where they took off the heatsink and it flew off, then all processors do that. Brands have nothing to do with how long something will live. If you're spending $2700 on a computer right now, then if you're getting a C2Q, then LOL @ you. If you prefer Intel, then get an i5 or i7. And the ATI 5870 is the most powerful card right now.

[Scroll_Lock88]

I said 2700$ for all parts together! Intel Processors & Nvidia Video Cards are so much better then AMDs and ATI Radeons, those products will even work much longer. I have seen this scientific project when AMD Processor was put on high temperature, it actually started to produce flames, so imagine what can happen to your house when nobody is at home!

Okay, after I finish laughing let me start..... not yet, still have the giggles..... okay, lol, man that is the most rediculous statement I have seen in quite awhile.

Where in any document does it say Intel processors will outlast an AMD machine? Or nVidia versus ATI for that matter? Oh that's right, nowhere.

As for processors producing flames and heatsinks flying off, overclock any processor, and take the heatsink off, machine will just pop to a black screen and it wont boot again, or will thermal throttle, try it on a pentium 4 or any other chip that has similar feature, take the heatsink off, system will still run just runs like dogsh*t. You won't have fancy smoke, fire, or even zaps of electricity. Anyone who has watched the video of the heatsink flying off the AMD chip from overclocking and thinks it can actually happen without added pyrotechnics needs to be commited to a mental hospital because you are seriously f*cked up.

The major items in your computer that can actually produce flames and/or make it catch on fire is your power supply, any VRMs(voltage regulation modules, not on the processor), and any shorts in your wiring such as bare wires. Definitely not a correlation between you using a AMD processor and ATI graphics card

So let's throw out the fanboy hub bub and get down to the facts here.

Very simple build, definitely not the 2700$ worth of fail that LGA775 system you pieced out. Have build it several times so far and have the parts for two more in the mail as we speak for customers.

AMD build? meh, better bang for the buck does lie in the i5/i7's, only reason I built one is because i got a 965 free at quakecon so it was a no brainer.

Samsung DVD Burner 20$
Samsung 1 TB Harddrive 85$
Core i7 920, definite improvement over the core2fail you have there, 289$
OCZ 6 GB Triple Channel Kit, 130$
Asus P6T, LGA1366 Board, Have liked Asus and have never had issues, board runs great and overclocks decently. 240$
5870, Sapphire branded, great card, display port, DX11, what more can you ask for? :P 410$
Corsair 650 Watt Power Supply, only real choice for power supplies :P 90$
Cooler Master Scout, flip flop between this and HAF 922, depends on which is cheaper at the time :P 90$

Total price of ~1350$ CHEAPER than your fail build and will run circles around it. Use the excess to buy a nice 24" monitor, keyboard, mouse, headphones.

Edit, whoops, posted my i7 parts list, if you want the i5 build that is a bit cheaper I can post that as well. Also will have a i3 system up and running tomorrow, going to see how these new chips run and overclock first hand.

Edited by Scroll_Lock88, 07 January 2010 - 10:39 PM.

[Scroll_Lock88]

If you want a good choice of a monitor, Asus 24", 230$ Monitors I use are pretty much the same, but are 22" rather than the 24" there.

[Latvian Soldier]

Thank you Scroll_Lock88, I'll show him this list, maybe we will buy it! The only thing where I was confused is about, that 5870 has only Memory Interface: 256-bit...

[Scroll_Lock88]

The 285 is still a 256 bit card, since it's two graphics cards on one card it obviously will have two memory interfaces. Since the 5870 is one gpu, one card it only has a single 256 bit interface. This by no means hampers the card's performance, and since it's a single GPU it has less power requirements than the 285 and runs cooler.

So you get a power and temperature savings by going with the 5870 which is still faster than the 285

Edited by Scroll_Lock88, 07 January 2010 - 11:15 PM.

[DarkShadow]

faster memory controllers don't mean better performance, it just means nvidia doesn't know how to properly utilize a graphics card without fucking up (bad PCI-E to HT links, etc).

go with the 5870 I promise you will not regret it, not to mention its more logical because with the majority of apps to support OpenCL its a huge plus in terms of futureproofing.

oh, and it runs a lot cooler then a GTX285.

[Latvian Soldier]

Most likely I'll buy it, does 5870 support 3D vision with 120Hz monitor?