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[S.W.A.T. 2.0]

Eventually they'll stop making lots of stuff, but ATM, how many new technologies (other than PCIe and dual channel) do you think will be incorporated into s939 before you have to upgrade your processor again?? At the rate that computers are advancing at currently, by the time another major new technology comes out they may be on the Athlon 64 8000+ s983 using AGP 52x or something like that, and who's gonna keep using their s939 3000+ then, or even an FX-51? At that time, it'd just be easier to buy a new cpu/mobo together.

What I'm trying to emphasize is that despite the fact that s939 does have a few new bells and whistles, none of which are drastically important (maybe a little nice to have), s754 is still pretty nice.

Axodious, for a quick comparison between your s754 3000+ (.13nm) and a s939 3000+ (.09nm), check this out:

http://www.anandtech...aspx?i=2242&p=7

Other than quake 3 (where the FPS are already through the roof), the biggest jump I see is about than 6 FPS on a game that's running at about 255 FPS already. There's one that jumps 3 FPS when it's running at 65 already...

The point is, don't fret about going the s754 route. The technology is not going to die quickly. By the time you're ready to upgrade again, there's going to be newer faster technology that probably won't be able to run on most of the current hardware anyways, so you'll have to upgrade everything again!

The only really big reason I'd want to go s939 is the .90nm processors overclock to rediculously high speeds. The 3000+ overclocks to higher speeds than the FX-53. Just have to get RAM that can keep up though...

P.S. anyone planning on buying a video card check out the new Radeon X800 XL. $50 cheaper than the 6800 GT, faster clocks, all 16 pipes open. Should be a nice rival to the 6800 GT (since the X800 Pro failed terribly)

Edited by S.W.A.T. 2.0, 10 January 2005 - 01:26 PM.

[dpgdog187]

I dont necessarily agree, staying with s754 has a few bonuses left. Most of the high end cards on the market today are agp8x still and its not like the s754 stuff sucks anyway. I am in the process of figuring out my next upgrade but amongst all of my system I rate my current one as the fastest. (And will put it up against any other)

[DarkShadow]

You can put that computer up against mine and it knocks you the f*ck out on round one...

AMD FX 51 @ 2.63
ASUS Sk8v
Sapphire Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
2x 1024 GB Kingston DDR400 ECC
3x WD 250 GB EIDE 7200
2x Maxtor 7200 External Firewire
Platronics DSP 500
Vapochill cooling
Logitech MX510 (Until the MX518 Comes out)
550 Watt AeroCool AeroPower True Blue Fully Sleeved PSU

Just ordered... 140 gb 15k SCSI drive [because ATA/IDE sucks ass]
Plantronics GameCom Pro1 DSP500's







Oh, and i Forgot to Mention I run on a Vapochill Lightspeed at -36 to -50C. Lol, pwned

also, nvidia sucks!

[S.W.A.T. 2.0]

You can put that computer up against mine and it knocks you the f*ck out on round one...

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Your computer does that to most machines lol.

Oh yeah, for guys with PCIe, you can preorder an X800 XL now and get 10% off with a cupon code (bringing it to $270!!) Check ATi's website store.

[dpgdog187]

You can put that computer up against mine and it knocks you the f*ck out on round one...

AMD FX 51 @ 2.63
ASUS Sk8v
Sapphire Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition
2x 1024 GB Kingston DDR400 ECC
3x WD 250 GB EIDE 7200
2x Maxtor 7200 External Firewire
Platronics DSP 500
Vapochill cooling
Logitech MX510 (Until the MX518 Comes out)
550 Watt AeroCool AeroPower True Blue Fully Sleeved PSU

Just ordered... 140 gb 15k SCSI drive [because ATA/IDE sucks ass]
Plantronics GameCom Pro1 DSP500's
Oh, and i Forgot to Mention I run on a Vapochill Lightspeed at -36 to -50C. Lol, pwned

also, nvidia sucks!

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I will give it to you, but the fx-51 sucks in any normal bench anyway. And considering I have 2 raptors in raid 0 as opposed 2 ur so called WD 250's there's no comp there. Plus you have 2 gigs of registered ram dude, sure you win that battle but just cause you have more, you put a gig of your versus mine, I win. And if Nvidia sucks so bad, why is ATI trying to get their own version of sli?

Here is an example of ur systems so called performance advantage of mine. (I wouldnt brag)
http://www.anandtech...doc.aspx?i=1941

And considering the fact that the x800xt is in a class higher than the 6800 gt (before you talk about something of that sort you should know that the comp for the 6800 was the x800 pro) and even in that case I'm not impressed.
http://www.anandtech...doc.aspx?i=2044

So we can be friends and let this so-called battle fall by the way-side or continue to go at it.(Plus my new rig will sit on ur fx-51's face and fart:-P)

[S.W.A.T. 2.0]

X800 XL should stand up a bit better to the 6800 GT than the X800 Pro did...

What new rig are you building??

[dpgdog187]

Athlon 64 3500+ (Winchester core)
Asus A8N sli Deluve
2x 6600GT's in sli config

[S.W.A.T. 2.0]

Athlon 64 3500+ (Winchester core)
Asus A8N sli Deluve
2x 6600GT's in sli config

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That's not gonna do crap to his machine. Stick with your 1x6800 GT, as it's actually faster, and go with more umph than the 3500+ winchester (as it and the 3000+ hit the same speeds) or wait for the Turion's to come out (seriously).

As it is, that rig won't even come close to his. 6600 GT's SLI'd are not that impressive (especially with AA/AF enabled) Honestly, don't even bother with the upgrade, as your speed increase is going to be minimal ATM. If you do, get a faster processor, and 1x6800 GT PCIe. Then when you save up some $$ buy a 2nd.

Just my personal opinion though...

http://www.anandtech...doc.aspx?i=2284
http://www.anandtech...aspx?i=2258&p=4

Edited by S.W.A.T. 2.0, 17 February 2005 - 03:18 PM.

[Incomudr0]

My systems:
(yes all this in a microATX case)
FragBox2 (bought the case)
AMD 3000+ 939 w/ZALMAN ALL COPPER COOLER
MSI RS480M2-LI
Sapphire X850XT PCI-e
1GB 2-2-2-5 Corsair w/ LED's
MSI SATA CD dirve
80GB WD SATA
Audgiy 2 ZS NeoPower 480
Linksys wireless G w/ speedboster(PCI)
winXP pro

2nd system

FX51 @ 2.6GHz w/thermalright XP120
SK8N
Antec p160 case
1GB corsair memory XMS
9800XT
550watt true control PSU (antec)
2x36GB wd raptors
win XP pro and linux 64 bit

[DarkShadow]

I guess you didnt read my post properly, because currently im using a 15k scsi that knocks raptors on their ass, may be loud as a jet... But I dont give a f*ck im running -40c and with a 15k, it doesnt matter that much on CPU power until duel cores come out im not budging, same for graphics but im no fool, nvidia SLI is a waste of money and only stupid !@#$%^&s but them, simply put.

also on a side note, my ram would probably stab you in the eye.... im runnin 2-2-2-2 at the moment no issues what so ever.... so unless you can get lower then that, I doubt your ram would keep up..... especially if your running DDR450 or DDR2 ram, which has lat. issues up the ass

[Incomudr0]

I guess you didnt read my post properly, because currently im using a 15k scsi that knocks raptors on their ass, may be loud as a jet... But I dont give a f*ck im running -40c and with a 15k, it doesnt matter that much on CPU power until duel cores come out im not budging, same for graphics but im no fool, nvidia SLI is a waste of money and only stupid !@#$%^&s but them, simply put.

also on a side note, my ram would probably stab you in the eye.... im runnin 2-2-2-2 at the moment no issues what so ever.... so unless you can get lower then that, I doubt your ram would keep up..... especially if your running DDR450 or DDR2 ram, which has lat. issues up the ass

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i also didnt spend a fortune tho......nice is you are really running 2-2-2-2 id have to see it to belive it

[DarkShadow]

get some corsair XMS.... 3200 LLPT =low lat already.... add a bit of extra voltage and lower the temp.... ask mannam he even did it with my ram that I sent him a while back...

[Dr. Lobos]

Everybody just give up...YOUR e-pen0s is no match for Shadow's...just go sit in the corner and eat some cheetos.

BUT...let's compare performance ratings to price paid per rig...then we mere mortals might catch up a little.

Edited by Dr. Lobos, 13 April 2005 - 07:44 PM.

[DarkShadow]

yeah next PC i build is gonna be a bargain bin PC.... no more then 500 USD.... ill have the case shaped like a cross and tack your religious ass right on it lobo

[Dr. Lobos]

Sounds good, but there better be coctail weiners and jalepeno poppers there. The last crucifiction I went to didn't have sh*t for munchies...bs i say!

[NC Derek]

ok, But dont be embarassed that your rusted cum bucket looses the WAR.

AMD FX 51 2.2 GHz @ 2.583
ASUS SK8V Motherboard
ATI X800 XT Platinum Edition
AeroPower True 550 Watt Sleeved PSU
Two 250 GB WD 7200 RPM Internal Storage Devices
One OTT 120 GB 15000 RPM 16 MB Cache SCSI
Lacie 1024 GB External 7200 RPM Firewire/USB HD
Lite-On 16x DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD-R/CD-RW
TDK 52x CD-RW
Lian Li PC65 Case
Vapochill LS @ -40c atm.
Logitech MX510
Logitech Matching MX keyboard
Viewsonic a90f ultrabright 19" CRT and a gateway 21" FPD
7.2 Surround Sound + AMP

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holly crap