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[Jack]

My parents got a new media center pc that came with Vista this past weekend and I went over to install some software and show them how to "backup" dvd's and cd's. When I was using a program to "purchase" music I found that I couldn't download some and then couldn't burn others. Is this a Vista issue or is it with the program I was using?

[Mike2077]

God who knows what kinda DRM sh*t they put in vista to 'prevent' piracy. I wish they would develop something better than DX10 so I never have to install it.

[onyx]

Yup. Read the terms and conditions. They are pretty interesting.

Basically it says even though you bought VIsta, you don't really own Vista, and MS can control most of the sh*t you do using Vista.

[Novahawk]

Onyx.. MS could do that before Vista too..

[Ezekiel]

Yup. Read the terms and conditions. They are pretty interesting.

Basically it says even though you bought VIsta, you don't really own Vista, and MS can control most of the sh*t you do using Vista.

And that is why some 600,000 users of a windows based operating system are using cracked or illagitament copies.

[onyx]

Onyx.. MS could do that before Vista too..

True enough. However, I can use XP to install a cracked copy of just about any piece of software out there, including MS software. Try that with Vista.

XP never had a clause saying that MS could look at your installed apps and remove any of them without consent from the licensee. Vista license agreement allows them to do that. Vista is nothing like XP and it won't take people long to figure that out.

[XxInColdBloodxX]

Linux Ftw...


nuff said.

[Halcomb]

Hah. Yeah. I just found out that Microsoft is now in league with BayTSP... a renowned P2P detection agency. Vista apparently makes it easier.

They can now reliably track the destination of P2P transactions.

That's where I was burnt apparently.

[ghozy]

Vista sucks for people who build their own computer. According to EULA you can only install it to 2 different computers, granted you have to delete the prior installation. Unlike XP you are limited on how many different computers you can install it to.

Considering that when mainboard and harddrive changed, it is handled as a new computer, that really really sucks.

[Novahawk]

XP is the exact same way.. If you have a major hardware change like mobo or processor.. you have to reactivate windows.. Retail version can be activated as much as you want.. OEM version can only be activated once.. Its the Same for XP and Vista

[Justin Sane]

Yeah but the activation is easy to get around. You just call them, explain the situation, and they give you a key that lets you get past the activation. I must have done it 10 times with my copy of XP for me and my friends.

[Janton]

Slightly Wrong. New processor does not mean new activation, if anything all you'll need to do is do a Windows Repair. Basically your just overwriting some files like hal.dll that you need to recognize new procs and all that jazz. That's why some fellas who upgrade their CPU'S still have only one core/same clock as before. This guy above me is right, call Windows and you can activate that sh*t a thousand times, they don't give a f*ck, Vista is out and soon XP will no longer be traced (Like Windows 2000) and millions of unlegit copies will be used everyday...but it will basically be legal. Let's face it, sooner or later we will all have vista on our machines, techs will HAVE TO have vista as all new Dells, and Gateways that grandma's bring into our shops will have vista on it.

Coldblood, No offense towards Linux (I use linux) but there is no DX10 support, at least until WINE gets some kick ass upgrades done.

[Chris82]

Vista sucks, f*cking system resource hog bloated drm protection expensive piece of sh*t cockmongler.

Ooh...I pray that unofficial DX10 drivers are released for XP...how sweet that would be.

[Janton]

Stop saying it's a resource hog, jesus christ. If your PC is so outdated that you can't spare 300ish MB's of RAM than jump out of the past and get a decent PC. Whether anyone likes it or not Vista will become the minority. FYI Chris, your x1800gto has no need for DX10.

[ghozy]

Slightly Wrong. New processor does not mean new activation, if anything all you'll need to do is do a Windows Repair. Basically your just overwriting some files like hal.dll that you need to recognize new procs and all that jazz. That's why some fellas who upgrade their CPU'S still have only one core/same clock as before. This guy above me is right, call Windows and you can activate that sh*t a thousand times, they don't give a f*ck, Vista is out and soon XP will no longer be traced (Like Windows 2000) and millions of unlegit copies will be used everyday...but it will basically be legal. Let's face it, sooner or later we will all have vista on our machines, techs will HAVE TO have vista as all new Dells, and Gateways that grandma's bring into our shops will have vista on it.

Coldblood, No offense towards Linux (I use linux) but there is no DX10 support, at least until WINE gets some kick ass upgrades done.

I didn't say processor, i said mb and harddrive. you can reacitvate retail XP as many times as you want. there is no restriction in the XP EULA. with Vista you can do that only twice. please read again what i wrote.

[Janton]

I Wasn't directing my reply towards you, no offense. Your cool because your kitty has a gun.

Edited by Janton, 12 February 2007 - 10:01 PM.

[ghozy]

correction, I read Vista EULa changed right before publish after public complaints and now "Retail Version" allows Vista to be reactivated as many times as you want.

[Hoon]

i am just happy with my XP.. thanks