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[Bumblebee]

Forgot I had this..



Thats my C2D E6700 and dual 8800 GTS (320mb) cards. All unclocked. Im pretty sure Im gonna keep what I got seing as how the performance of a newer cpu isnt so uber, unless I decided to get an amd setup and say forget intel/nvidia. After cpu and mobo I could save alot of cash for the gpu's if I just keep what I got. One thing.. why does the cpu score so low? Im confused with the 1 fps or .7 fps.

bumble

Edited by Bumblebee, 25 July 2009 - 02:26 AM.

[DarkShadow]

that's a pretty fail CPU score.

[vet.mad hatter]

That is also a fail graphics score for 2 8800's who ever told you to get 2 320meg cards should be shot!!!I know for a fact that one 8800 for 100$ and a regular 150$ kentsfield quad ,,not overclocked would get 14k.I would throw those cards in the trash 320meg isn't even close to what you need.Any 100$ card 512 or 1gig would smoke those 320's.That set-up is fail smack the f*ck outta the f*cker that talked you into not 1 but two 320's=2x the failure.

[vet.mad hatter]

Also wtf does ALL UNCLOKED mean???

[Novahawk]

3DMark06 is CPU bound, if you get a quad your score will be way higher.... A slow quad will score way higher in 06 than an extremely oc'ed dual... Vantage is more graphics heavy

[Bumblebee]

Also wtf does ALL UNCLOKED mean???

Not overclocked...... jeeze. And ive had those cards for some time. They actually did quite well and i never had any game issues with them, only thing that destroyed them was when you cranked up World in conflict or supreme commander on max... and screw crysis. My next build will be far smarter than this one, thanks to all of the good suggestions here. And when I built that pc i only had one 8800 to begin with due to limited funds, bought a second one uber cheap and it made gaming much better. I wasnt trying to build TEH ULTIMATE DESTROYER OF ... need I say more...

Edited by Bumblebee, 26 July 2009 - 05:54 AM.

[Sniprwulf]

lol if you posted that expect to get a little flamed on here bro.

its all good if your running your games at what you need to be.

i think my setup got around a 15000 after i oc'ed my phenomx4. cpu score could be improved if you oc.
majority of the gms don't use multiple cores so whatevers.

[vet.mad hatter]

Honestly i was not trying to flame but i wanted him to understand that 320megs of ram on 1 video card was fail 4 years ago!!If the card only has 320 megs of ram thats all it can load 320megs... That is what both cards get to use 320meg that's it.Also i imagine that you screen is at least 1680x1050 so most games are fail lag everywhere.If he decides that gaming is what he is after with a budget the first thing is a video card since that is where the gaming happens.If he decides that he needs more cpu for applications not gaming then get the cpu first. If this is mostly to game with i would first get a nice video card and ditch the two 320 meg ones.You will notice a huge difference then overclock that cpu to 3 at least and all games will be silky smooth.

[Scroll_Lock88]

Honestly i was not trying to flame but i wanted him to understand that 320megs of ram on 1 video card was fail 4 years ago!!If the card only has 320 megs of ram thats all it can load 320megs... That is what both cards get to use 320meg that's it.Also i imagine that you screen is at least 1680x1050 so most games are fail lag everywhere.If he decides that gaming is what he is after with a budget the first thing is a video card since that is where the gaming happens.If he decides that he needs more cpu for applications not gaming then get the cpu first. If this is mostly to game with i would first get a nice video card and ditch the two 320 meg ones.You will notice a huge difference then overclock that cpu to 3 at least and all games will be silky smooth.

Hrmmm, back when the 8800's were released they were very competitive at gaming resolutions below 1600x1200, which alot of gamers use.

You also need to remember that the 8800 GTS was a midrange card, never meant for the high end segment. Was nice competition to the 2900XT at resolutions up to where memory bandwidth becomes a issue(right around the 1600x1200 and above with AA, etc. to high settings) Granted not alot of people put their displays up that high so the card you labeled as 'fail' was beating out ATI's higher end offerings. If this is fail sh*t, I'll pick the fail cards all the time, gives me another 100$ or more to put into a faster processor or more memory :D

The 8800 GTS overclocked pretty decently and had the best price/performance when they came out. I myself bought one for those exact reasons, they were the best of their price point at the time.



It's an alright score, definitely not high end, but definitely not fail that mad labeled it as.

[vet.mad hatter]

Are you saying that a 320meg gimp offering from nvidia is good enough?The 512 version is better but they have 8800gt 256meg and the 8800 gts 320meg both fail when comes to gaming.I have used both for builds for people and a 512 meg 1950xtx is smoother gaming!!!!Maybe benchmarks it looks like there ok but i know gaming there sh*t!!Also like i said ive tested at 1280x1024 and 100% most games suffered lag from not being enough video memory.

Edited by vet.mad hatter, 26 July 2009 - 08:11 PM.

[Scroll_Lock88]

Rather than get into a pissing match with someone who doesnt know wtf they are talking about. Anyone who says video memory counts at a low resolution such as 1280x1024 needs their head examined.


Anyways.....

I myself would wait bumblebee for the next wave of refreshes from ATI/nvidia, those cards are decent enough to last to really get your money's worth.

Best bet is if you are playing the games right now at a slower speed than what you prefer go ahead and upgrade. Drop in a ATI 4890 and you are good to go. They are going for a pretty decent price and give out a outstanding performance for the price.

[DarkShadow]

scroll, I partially agree and disagree, because at lower resolutions AA/AF is required to be a bit higher, so the video mem partially levels out, but having some headroom is always a good thing.

bang for buck though, 4890 is indeed the most amazing card ever...

[Scroll_Lock88]

scroll, I partially agree and disagree, because at lower resolutions AA/AF is required to be a bit higher, so the video mem partially levels out, but having some headroom is always a good thing.

Not really required, most people dont even touch the advanced features. If they are gaming at 1280x1024 they are most likely joe blow person that doesnt have the most advanced of computer and couldnt give two sh*ts about AA/AF just as long as it runs. At the lower resolutions most videocards you cant tell a difference, which is why saying one videocard is noticeably faster than the other of the similar generation at a low resolution is ludicrous.

[vet.mad hatter]

Honestly you sit there and say your going to get into a pissing match with me and you still saying the same crap.I have played fear cod4, doom3 and crysis with a 256 meg 8800 gt all lagged horribly@1280x1024 stock settings .Then i played those same 4 with a 1950xtx(friends set-up) smooth so there is a difference and a notifiable one and i have played with a 320 meg one,and did not test it like the 8800gt but i did notice lag with it in fear and crysis.Also the 8800 gt 256 bit got higher 3dmark 06 scores @1280x1024 than my 8800 640 meg but the 8800gt gamed like a pile of crap!!I am not making this up throw a 8800 320meg card a 8800 gt 256 meg in your set-up and see how well the game play is,,, benckmarks are not the truth!Also with the test's i did use driver cleaner in safe mode and i installed the drivers right.So my conclusion is most games made in the last 3-4 year's like at least 512 of video ram.

[DarkShadow]

stop going off-topic.

[Bumblebee]

Ive had those 8800 GTS 320's before the GT's came out, plus I was using a 1400 X 900 resolution screen. Everything was blazing fast for me even with all the adv features enabled. There was a couple of games that didnt like to too much like I said earlier, World In Conflict and Supreme commander. My 8800 gts's destroyed all of the valve games. I think I was getting excess of 200 fps all the time even with smoke grenades flying all over the place. Seeing as how much I played CS source I think I got my moneys worth out of those cards! On this new setup though Im thinking its time to head to ATI due to the price vs performance aspects. By the way, for those 4890's whats the best resolution screen to use with those? Oh and definatly with the next cards I get Im gonna make sure they have more ram in comparison when I bought the 8800's. 320 mb's was ok when I got them but now its almost nothing. So all in all I think the score I got with the hardware I had for 3-4 year old technology wasnt too shabby cosidering I wasnt overclocking at all.

Bumblebee

Edited by Bumblebee, 28 July 2009 - 12:26 AM.