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#1 NC Derek

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 11:23 AM

NVIDIA contacted us today after we published the "PlayStation 3 GPU Less Powerful than GeForce 7800" story based on a report found at The Inquirer. Derek Perez, NVIDIA's Director of Public Relations, was kind enough to provide us the actual paragraph from the September issue of PSM. Here is the information from the blurb in question:

There's no doubting that NVIDIA's new 7800GTX is the ultimate in PC graphics technology. The card's G70 GPU, which is more than twice as powerful as two of NVIDIA's previous top-of-the-line 6800 boards, shares a lot of similar workings with the PS3's RSX chip - only it isn't as fast. Oh, and it retails for $599.

The article actually says the GeForce 7800 GTX is not as fast as the RSX graphics processing unit that NVIDIA developed for the PlayStation 3.

We apologize for any confusion and we'd like to thank NVIDIA for providing the exact info.

YESTERDAYS ARTICLE:
When Sony unveiled its next-generation PlayStation last May, one of the slides displayed in the presentation showed that the PlayStation 3 GPU had the power of two GeForce 6800 Ultras working in SLI mode (nVIDIA's Scalable Link Interface multi-GPU technology). At that time, nVIDIA (the developer of the PlayStation 3 RSX GPU) has not yet unveiled its latest graphics architecture, formerly code-named G70.

But now that the GeForce 7800 GTX and its little brother, the recently announced GeForce 7800 GT graphics processing unit, have been announced, and an interesting tidbit comes from none other than the Official PlayStation Magazine.

The Inquirer reports that an nVIDIA spokesperson was quoted in the magazine saying that the RSX GPU is basically a slightly less powerful GeForce 7800.

That means that almost a year before launch, there�s a PC graphics chip that is more powerful than the RSX GPU found in the PlayStation 3. And make no mistake, this is not a crazy, speculative conclusion ; this comes straight from the company that makes both parts: the RSX and GeForce 7800 graphics processing units.

That�s not good news for consoles, being that the typical 4-to-5 year lifecycle a console must survive allows computers to catch up quickly with the technology found on next-generation consoles.

Usually, game consoles ship with hardware that is not available on personal computer at the time of launch, and a few months later, PC hardware manufacturers create hardware parts that surpass console technologies.

But launching with a technology that is already available on PC is not good at all for a �next-generation� console. By the time the PlayStation 3 launches, there will be already a new GPU from nVIDIA that will be more powerful that their current flagship GPU, the GeForce 7800 GTX.


So, what about the Xbox 360? In the case of the graphics processing unit designed for the Xbox 360, ATI has included technology on the Xenos GPU that won�t be available for PC graphics chip in the next twelve months, including the unified shader architecture and the embedded DRAM daughter die.
A so called R600, which might debut towards the launch of Windows Vista,
in the fourth quarter of 2006, might incorporate the special technologies ATI put into the Xbox 360 GPU.


With a three-core processor and its state-of-the-art GPU, the Xbox 360 hardware won�t be matched by PC until late 2006, when quad-core processors from AMD and Intel arrive and Windows Graphics Foundation 2.0-compliant GPUs, featuring unified shader architecture, arrive.

Edited by NC Derek, 01 September 2005 - 11:26 AM.

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#2 Ziros

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 12:30 PM

2 words...
well, 4.

PS3 Pwned!!!


Thx Derek
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#3 Billy Pumper

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 10:53 PM

DEREK PLS MAKE CLIFF NOTES
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#4 NC Derek

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:00 AM

i highlighted it you lazy illiterate piece of crap. i love you man!
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#5 Billy Pumper

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 04:16 AM

lol i read it but i was hopeing for 20 words or less remember i am from GA durrrrr
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#6 IWantWhiteCastle

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 09:59 AM

yea, i saw how long it was and said f*ck that lol
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Posted 02 September 2005 - 12:06 PM

lol billy... there's hope for you yet.

I started to read all of it, but then just skimmed through it. I can't believe you took the time to type all of that out, but good info nonetheless.
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#8 NC Derek

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 01:32 PM

i didnt type it, its an actual article i copied and pasted. i highlighted the good stuff. basically, billy, it says xbx360 wont be outdated by pc gpu's for 12 months, ps3 is already outdated and wont be out for 12 months, and pc will outdo xbox360's gpu when vista can support 4 core. so basically keep pc cause it kicks ass.
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#9 Billy Pumper

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 04:38 PM

sweet thats all i needed. anyway i will still buy ps3
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#10 IWantWhiteCastle

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 09:27 PM

yea well i just bought a new computer chair and one of the things on the bottom was broke :1:
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#11 Frag0holic

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 11:44 PM

Yeah, computers are always a better investment (eventhough they get outdated very fast). You can do so much more stuff on a computer, like look at porn :20:
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 12:22 PM

Haha, sorry to say this, but consoles are for people with real friends. They're mostly meant to have a few friends over and have some fun. You can't exactly do that with a PC. Unless you're a super-nerd with 4 or 5 good PCs in your basement on a LAN. In which case you probably don't have any friends anyways.



Also, if you haven't heard yet, there's going to be some sort of add-on capability for the Xbox 360, so that in case by the time the PS3 comes out it is not as powerful, you will be able to purchase upgrades such as extra video memory, etc., basically a feature that was added on so that even if the PS3 was to be far more powerful than the 360 it could catch up.

Edited by kyle2k5, 03 September 2005 - 12:26 PM.

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#13 Frag0holic

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 12:35 PM

Don't say that, I used to have like 14 friends bring their computers over to my house in Sweden and we would have a 3 day 'LAN party'.. those were the days :1:
But yeah I know what you mean because I used to play alot GoldenEye on Nintendo 64 with some friends, it's more accesible than comp. games somehow.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 03:06 PM

Well, if you were going to do a 3-day LAN thing, that's a bit different, but normally it would be kind of a pain in the ass to just bring your computer over to a friends house to play games for a few hours.
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#15 IWantWhiteCastle

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:21 PM

who cares, pc's are better. Consoles are not for serious gamers, there toys for people who suck at games.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:21 PM

who cares, pc's are better.  Consoles are not for serious gamers, there toys for people who suck at games.

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Those are some pretty serious words coming from a person with no penis.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:27 PM

Those are some pretty serious words coming from a person with no penis.

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thems fightin words
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:28 PM

lol he's right though, the consoles are for losers who have big holes in there pockets :20: and pc's better cuz u dont need 2 have ur friends over, just have online play and meet them in a server, plus consoles are for people who are realllly slow XD
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 08:46 PM

Those are some pretty serious words coming from a person with no penis.

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Dude didnt you ask for an unbanment? spaming almost every single new thread...plus this wonderful post.... will definitly not get you unbanned....

Edited by Novahawk, 03 September 2005 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2005 - 11:17 PM

i didnt type it, its an actual article i copied and pasted. i highlighted the good stuff. basically, billy, it says xbx360 wont be outdated by pc gpu's for 12 months, ps3 is already outdated and wont be out for 12 months, and pc will outdo xbox360's gpu when vista can support 4 core. so basically keep pc cause it kicks ass.


One again derek you show your bias toward xbox, well let me point out a simple factor everyone is overlooking.
If PS3's gpu is more powerful than the 360's, which I believe it is. It means they will both be outdated by nvidia's new tech. The article simply points out that Ati will not be makeing anything that will surpass the tech they put into xbox 360. It says nothing about nvidia's tech. I've been paying attention, nvidia is the current king of gpu, and by the looks of things they will ramain that way... I have yet to be impressed by the 360's gfx, I have yet to see a 360 demo that made me say wow, on the other hand ps3 is looking very next gen. I know alot of people will say it's all pre rendered,that's another discussion I won't get into.We will find out in less that 6 months, but pre rendered or not I still said WOW.

Find something on 360 that makes me say wow, I've seen gears of war, I AM NOT IMPRESSED!
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