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[Haven]

As some of you know I am coming close to purchasing my new computer parts, but the processor is confusing to me. should I get a 3200+ with only 512 Cache or pay the extra cash to get 1Meg Cache and another 200mhz??

Any help would be great.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103535

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103622


Also if im gunna pay the exta cash should I gamble and get this open box duel core http://www.newegg.co...82E16819103562R

Edited by Haven, 10 June 2006 - 07:31 PM.

[ShLoNkY]

from what I've read the extra cache doesnt make a difference......

cheap 3800+

Edited by ShLoNkY, 10 June 2006 - 07:39 PM.

[Haven]

but would the duel core be worth it, i mean my buddy in town can OC pretty well (so he says) even if it was just 200mhz a duel 2.2 would be a BIG step up from my AMD 1700+ which is crap.

[Haven]

how do i know if this mother board

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813136009

supports this RAM

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231021

Really confused sorry guys.

[NC Derek]

id get the x2 3800 since its dual, and is 64 right?

[monster]

Both wyte mafia and me have the 3700 San Diego w/ 1mb L2 cache.


These f*ckers are crazy overclockers, even better than the old 2500+ bartons.


Wyte's is at 2.8, and mine is at 2.68.... on stock cooling!

[kidcapri]

I always feel weird about buying open box items. I would go with the 3700. I went from a pent 4 2.0 to the 3700 and there is a huge difference between the two. The 3700 is much faster. Btw, manufacturer websites always have the best specs. Here is the the website for that motherboard. Motherboard
No it doesn't support that memory, but you could go with some pc 3200 and be fine.

Edit: I just saw monsters post and yeah the 3700 are pretty good overclockers. I kept mine at a modest 2.4 though. Will try higher later on.

2nd Edit: I love building new computers. Hehe I'm drunks.

3rd Edit: Even though I am drunk, I do know what I am talking about. Take my words into account too. I know what you were thinking. Bastard!

4th Edit: I'm sorry for calling you a bastard.

Edited by kidcapri, 10 June 2006 - 10:22 PM.

[Haven]

well can you find me some good 2 gig RAM (2x1gb) that is good for over clocking around that same price???

Edited by Haven, 10 June 2006 - 10:47 PM.

[Sniprwulf]

http://secure.ncix.c...hreadid=1061630

like shlonky said, the cache doesnt make a huge difference, only 3-5% in games n sh*t, go cheaper and overclock

[kidcapri]

Sure can.

This memory costs more but excellent quality.

This is some good solid memory for a little less.

This is also some good middle of the line memory. Price is middle too.

Umm anyone of these would be good. The last two systems I have built, I have used the Kingston memory. Its pretty decent memory for a cheaper price. Of course If its in your budget, get the corsair or Ocz.

Hope this helps.

[Haven]

Ok thanks guys, I think I will get the 3800+ and thanks Carpi I think i'll get the top link. Says its a good over clocking RAM

Poo that 3800+ is out of stock :(

Edited by Haven, 10 June 2006 - 11:02 PM.

[Sniprwulf]

get the ocz memory at the bottom, but instead of paying for shipping, get it here for free shipping:
http://www.zipzoomfl...oductCode=85209

or wait, on processor, u can get the 3800+ AM2 for $155:
http://www.zipzoomfl...uctCode=80721-9

[kidcapri]

Benchmarks have proven that the 3700 performs better than the 3200. They actually perform alot more than 3 to 5% better than the 3200. Add crazy overclocking into the mix and you have an awesome processor with the 3700. Search tomshardware.com for benchmarks. They are the best unbiased website in my opinion. No I am not saying that the 3200 sucks, but the 3700 is the better choice. Yes the 1mb cache might not help a whole lot, but they improved on the athlon 64 since the 3200. Seriously though guys even the 1mb 3200 got blown away by the 1mb 3400. Now just think about the 3700.

[monster]

Hey... yeah you can save money on a 3200 and overclock it... but you can also get a 3400 and overclock it, or a 3700 or an fx-60 and overclock those.


The point is that the 3700 is capable of overclocking like a mother f*cker right out of the box. Try to find a bad review of the 3700... My last 3 procs have been: 2500+ barton (amazing oc capability), 2800+, and 3400+. Only the 2500+ barton and my 3700+ san diego have been outstanding overclockers.... And both have been very reasonable as far as price goes.

[Haven]

Aight thanks guys either way this is what I will be upgrading from.

AMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.56 Ghz
511 MB Ram
Nvidia (Refirbished) 5600 128 MB GM
36 Gig CRAP Harddrive
Currently using a 500 Watt PSU I IDLE at 53 Degrees Celsius (sorry terrible spelling)

[medel]

Aight thanks guys either way this is what I will be upgrading from.

AMD Athlon XP 1700+ 1.56 Ghz
511 MB Ram
Nvidia (Refirbished) 5600 128 MB GM
36 Gig CRAP Harddrive
Currently using a 500 Watt PSU I IDLE at 53 Degrees Celsius (sorry terrible spelling)

should be night and day difference.
I'd go with the 3700+X2, too. you can always overclock, but you can't add more cache. :D
For reference, my friend's 3700X2 had about 20fps higher average than my 3500+ and his video card is worse (6800gt vs ultra)... I wish I had a dual core.
That memory you posted way back would have worked, but would have been clocked down to pc3200 speeds and probably have crap timings. The XMS will blow it away (as would the OCZ).
I suppose my final suggestion would be the X2 proc and the OCZ ram ('cause it's $100 cheaper than the XMS and should overclock to about the same)
Most of all, ENJOY!

[wyte mafia]

Hey... yeah you can save money on a 3200 and overclock it... but you can also get a 3400 and overclock it, or a 3700 or an fx-60 and overclock those.
The point is that the 3700 is capable of overclocking like a mother f*cker right out of the box. Try to find a bad review of the 3700... My last 3 procs have been: 2500+ barton (amazing oc capability), 2800+, and 3400+. Only the 2500+ barton and my 3700+ san diego have been outstanding overclockers.... And both have been very reasonable as far as price goes.

like monster said. 2.8 b*tch! i have ran tests overclocking a 3200 against my 3700 with a 1800xt and the diff is over 30 fps in source stress test....so you can take the facts or the fiction. 1 meg cash is a huge diff for overclocking

[Haven]

Aight I think i'll get the 3700+ the extra 200 hertz is also nice.

I'm hoping when AM2 actually kicks off that the 939 prices will go down. That's why I got a pricey mobo, planning to get another ati x1800 by next year, and then later upgrade to a duel core mabey the 4800+ and I can always add more RAM. But will the 939 prices go down when AM2 does kick off?

[wyte mafia]

if you wanted to try something cool, get a 145 optoron duelcore and oc it to 2.6 it should spank the fx60 for under 300 bucks!

[ShLoNkY]

if you wanted to try something cool, get a 145 optoron duelcore and oc it to 2.6 it should spank the fx60 for under 300 bucks!

You can overclock the sh*t out of the opterons specially if you get the ones with the right stepping. f*ckers are getting 2.8 on air all day long from a 1.8 ghz stock speed. Thats insane.