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#1 vet.mad hatter

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:02 AM

Beat that mouse lag! coz windows wont-Mouse polling rate Hi all, just thought Id share with you some knowledge on the subject of (usb) mouse polling rates and how they can affect YOUR online gaming (well, they wouldnt affect anyone elses now would they)

Windows xp, being pretty trashy as it is, by default sets the windows usb polling rate at 125MHz thats an 8ms response time to me and you. What does this mean, well, this equates to LAG!! the bane of all counterstrike and alike players, and generally all good fps games. Now, what can we do about this,

well, interestingly enough we can, depending on the quality of your USB mouse you can increase the responsiveness significantly.

The basics are, the polling rate determins the time it takes for an action performed on the mouse to be transmitted to your computer and thusly to the game/software your using, so this incorporates a slight delay (lag) into your responses within the game. This becomes more prenounced while playing online games where pings/latencies and rates also effect your lag or responsivness. This can mean the difference between a shotty between the eyes and getting that "God-like" voice sounding off in the background Posted Image

Is I stated earlier the default polling rate is 125Mhz (8ms) and so naturally we get quite used to this when playing games, but wouldnt it be far greater to eliminate as best as possible this delay in sending mouse commands to your games to give a more fluid and responsive control over your gaming? id say hell yeah!

Right, there are a few different ranges you can use, and all are totally dependant upon your mouse's abilities, but none should harm your mouse (best have a ps2 mouse at hand incase yours aint up for the higher rate so u can change back to default)

Firstly: we have
125Mhz @8ms response time (default)

250Mhz @4ms response time

500Mhz @2ms response time

and the highest so far:

1000Mhz @**1ms** response time!!!

Right, I currently use a mx310 usb mouse, and have the polling rate set for 500Mhz, the actual polling rate is often fractionally lower than stated but pretty damn good. I have personally noticed improvements in the sensitivity and responsivness in my mouse, especially when playing online fps games. But there is an improvement to be had when playing singleplayer fps games and other games alike.

I am providing a link to the software I used to patch my USB polling rate, and included is also a mouse polling rate detector to tell you your current response time. See the screenies. Just a note though. Once you change your polling rate you must restart windows for the changes to take affect. This can make games more enjoyable especially the online games, but it could also be that you just dont notice the difference, as in the case that your mouse only supports a marginally higher response time.

But anything which reduces the amount of lag gamers suffer can only be a good thing. I will amend the post if i have missed something, but I think i got everything on here.


Here is a link to both the current mouse polling rate detector and the USB polling rate patch, neither created by me so I claim no glory here, other than I zipped them together in one handy package Posted Image


Get the download here http://www.filefacto...om/file/388c1b/

I took this from another forum but it works so there ya go!! Just extract after download should be 2 files use the mose timer see whats it at default then run patch restart then look again! Mine is at 2ms @500..

Edited by vet.mad hatter, 23 August 2006 - 08:11 AM.

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#2 Novahawk

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:03 AM

Beat that mouse lag! coz windows wont-Mouse polling rate Hi all, just thought Id share with you some knowledge on the subject of (usb) mouse polling rates and how they can affect YOUR online gaming (well, they wouldnt affect anyone elses now would they)

Windows xp, being pretty trashy as it is, by default sets the windows usb polling rate at 125MHz thats an 8ms response time to me and you. What does this mean, well, this equates to LAG!! the bane of all counterstrike and alike players, and generally all good fps games. Now, what can we do about this,

well, interestingly enough we can, depending on the quality of your USB mouse (I have a razer diamondback) you can increase the responsiveness significantly.

The basics are, the polling rate determins the time it takes for an action performed on the mouse to be transmitted to your computer and thusly to the game/software your using, so this incorporates a slight delay (lag) into your responses within the game. This becomes more prenounced while playing online games where pings/latencies and rates also effect your lag or responsivness. This can mean the difference between a shotty between the eyes and getting that "God-like" voice sounding off in the background Posted Image

Is I stated earlier the default polling rate is 125Mhz (8ms) and so naturally we get quite used to this when playing games, but wouldnt it be far greater to eliminate as best as possible this delay in sending mouse commands to your games to give a more fluid and responsive control over your gaming? id say hell yeah!

Right, there are a few different ranges you can use, and all are totally dependant upon your mouse's abilities, but none should harm your mouse (best have a ps2 mouse at hand incase yours aint up for the higher rate so u can change back to default)

Firstly: we have
125Mhz @8ms response time (default)

250Mhz @4ms response time

500Mhz @2ms response time

and the highest so far:

1000Mhz @**1ms** response time!!!

Right, I currently use a mx310 usb mouse, and have the polling rate set for 500Mhz, the actual polling rate is often fractionally lower than stated but pretty damn good. I have personally noticed improvements in the sensitivity and responsivness in my mouse, especially when playing online fps games. But there is an improvement to be had when playing singleplayer fps games and other games alike.

I am providing a link to the software I used to patch my USB polling rate, and included is also a mouse polling rate detector to tell you your current response time. See the screenies. Just a note though. Once you change your polling rate you must restart windows for the changes to take affect. This can make games more enjoyable especially the online games, but it could also be that you just dont notice the difference, as in the case that your mouse only supports a marginally higher response time.

But anything which reduces the amount of lag gamers suffer can only be a good thing. I will amend the post if i have missed something, but I think i got everything on here.


Here is a link to both the current mouse polling rate detector and the USB polling rate patch, neither created by me so I claim no glory here, other than I zipped them together in one handy package Posted Image


Get the download here http://www.filefacto...om/file/388c1b/

I took this from another forum but it works so there ya go!! Just extract after download should be 2 files use the mose timer see whats it at default then run patch restart then look again! Mine is at 2ms @500..

sweet, but in that it says that whoever wrote that first has a diamond razorback and then an mx310... :wtf: hehe
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#3 vet.mad hatter

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:12 AM

fixxed it you happy
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:15 AM

actually... no, lol... so i go to the link to download, but there is no button to download, i even registered and still nothing... :wtf:
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 10:58 AM

I downloaded it. you have the click the link says choose free download basic or something then you download the file. but it downloads it without extensions. so i figured the file is a zip file. i renamed the file to usb.zip and it worked. thanks mad, i will see if its working after restart though.
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#6 vet.mad hatter

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:15 AM

actually... no, lol... so i go to the link to download, but there is no button to download, i even registered and still nothing... :wtf:


Look harded noob!!!
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:43 AM

wow it seems like fixed the problem I'm having with my laser mouse. my mouse movement was getting stuck when i move it too fast to left . now it works without problem.

love you mad (nohomo � pizzack)

Edited by ghozy, 23 August 2006 - 11:44 AM.

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#8 ShLoNkY

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 12:30 PM

1ms for my Razer Copperhead. :tup: It came with the software to do that though....... Dont forget to mention that 1000mhz uses up quite a bit more CPU time........
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 12:51 PM

1ms for my Razer Copperhead. :tup: It came with the software to do that though....... Dont forget to mention that 1000mhz uses up quite a bit more CPU time........


Maybe if you have a celeron that might concern you but other than that it wont hurt a thing!!!
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 01:50 PM

Pardon but who the hell uses USB 2.0 Mouse connections as opposed to PS2 port?
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 01:57 PM

Apparently... Mad, Ghozy, Nova, Me, and Shlonky.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 02:16 PM

Whats a Ps2 port?? Playstation 2??? :20:

PS2 is usually not hot swappable and I hate rebooting if i wanna unplug my mouse. :tdown: That and PS2 is not really meant to handle todays high performance mice.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 02:30 PM

USB to PS2 Converters btw...

Almost every Logitech mouse comes with it, it truely is t3h pwn...

and yeah it works no prob imo.
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Posted 23 August 2006 - 07:04 PM

i use a ps2 mouse and i got the program for fun to be funny dunno if their will be a differnce but couldn't hurt to try :tup:

i use a ps2 mouse and i got the program for fun to be funny dunno if their will be a differnce but couldn't hurt to try :tup:
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